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Newbiesplayground – the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by strategy-(DOG)- » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:40 pm

It’s about time to review the past years and clarify some facts.

Back in 2013, OldSparky asked me if i could (and would) care for the future of the clan, as Sparky‘s health got severely worse. I agreed and shortly after that he announced me taking over the leadership of the -(DOG)- clan. This is a matter of fact. Within the weeks and months to come, Sparky tried to give me some good advice and instructions/suggestions as often he could. We discussed many topics and i gained an idea of Sparky‘s view of the clan, about his passion for the game and of course his sorrow and fears regarding the future of the clan. I don’t know if many of you knew that Sparky had some moments when he really thought about shutting down all newbiesplayground servers – and far more often he thought about closing this forum, as this place always had been used to fight each other badly. Instead of closing the forum, Sparky decided to remove all offensive posts and threads. Personally I disliked this kind of censorship but now i reached a point when i tend to agree to these drastic actions to some extent. Freedom of speech only works with rules. One of the most important rules to follow is: „personal freedom ends where the freedom of the other starts“. If everybody would care for it, we had no conflicts at all. But, unfortunately we have to meet a lot of intolerance and ignorance.

Some words Sparky told me, i did not forget as well, and they made me think about quite often within the past years. Sparky said to me „There are only few to trust“. Why did he say that? Back then, i had no idea, but meanwhile i learned my lessons.

The most severe attacks the clan had to face, came from inside. A few of the so called „Old DOGs“ tried a revolt last year and wanted to bring me down as clanleader, because i did not act against an admin, as they wanted me to. Until that point i did not think about the extent of blatancy these members had reached by then. Leadership of this revolt had BBG (BeachBumGuy) who tried his best to make others follow his plans. He found an executioner in person of GoodOlTaco, who deleted that admin’s (Masterkent) account and posts behind my back and without my permission. And of course one to follow this group of renegades was Rubie, who always acted up, if there was some atmosphere built by few against my person. I am trying to be fair and want to point out, that GoodOlTaco apologized himself after these happenings and he said very emotionally that he was sorry for what he did.

Nevertheless what had happened, i decided to leave those users‘ accounts active (of course privilegies had been dropped) on forum to give them a chance to change their attitude and maybe to come to an insight and to apologize for their acts against the clan… history showed they didn’t. although almost a year passed by since those happenings occured, many more actions have been set to act against my leadership and/or against the clan – mostly in the background. Just to mention their (BBG, Rubie, x21) attempt to name their UnrealTournament-servers „Newbiesplayground“ – a pure provocation against the clan and the community. But even the whole Unreal-community made clear, that this behavior is not acceptable, as it can be read in a thread on the OldUnreal-forum.

Now it is time for a change! I won’t let any renegades give the opportunity to abuse this forum for their personal warfare against me and the clan. You might have noticed that i reduced the public viewable topics of this forum to one thread within the past days: „Server Rules“. I wanted to let all forum users know and remind them, that this forum is a PRIVATE forum for the clan-members and friends of the clan! There is no point to offer this forum being a place for subversive elements whose‘ only target is trying to harm the -(DOG)- clan. This place is dedicated to Newbiesplayground, Unreal and the spirit of OldSparky-(DOG)-!
Everyone who refuses to follow the rules, who acts against the clan and my leadership will be excluded!

Let me clarify:

  • I AM THE CLANLEADER OF NEWBIESPLAYGROUND, THE -(DOG)- CLAN – no matter if you like or dislike this fact! Accept it or leave.
  • ALL NEWBIESPLAYGROUND-SERVERS ARE OWNED BY ME! – i pay all bills and fees on my own!
  • THE WEBSITE AND FORUM IS MAINTAINED, ADMINISTRATED AND OWNED BY ME – you are guests, so remember how to behave being a guest!
  • I MAKE THE RULES! THE RULES ARE STILL THE SAME AS SET BY OLDSPARKY! – follow the rules or you are gone!
  • THIS IS NOT NEGOTIABLE! – so don’t start to question any part of it.


Nobody is forced to stay here, to be a clan-member or to play on newbiesplayground-servers! If you dislike our rules, our setup of servers or me being the clanleader, you don’t need to stay here, you don’t need to play on newbiesplayground-servers! Just being here to provoke, to spoil others‘ time or fun in the game, on the forum and on our servers, will not be tolerated any longer!! If your contribution just means to sow resentment and aiming on riots within our community, you will be kicked!

Wearing the -(DOG)- tag means being a proud member of an honorable community, following clear and simple rules that establish basic rights for everyone who is part of this our community: respect, acceptance, equality and the intention to meet each other in sense of friendship. We accept everybody and we refuse to separate or to make differences between origin, gender, belief or status. Every player is welcomed on newbiesplayground – BUT: follow our rules!!

I want to thank all clan-members -(DOG)-/-(PUP)- - i am honoured that there are still many of you good -(DOG)-s, young members as well as old members, who joined the clan, wearing the tag with pride, being trustworthy and showing their loyality by presenting themselves in a way someone could expect from a true, respected -(DOG)-! You are heart and soul of the clan and you are the „ambassadors“ of OldSparky’s spirit and the whole history of Newbiesplayground!
And i want to thank all friends of DOGs (FOD) who support this community and contribute to it. I am happy to see still many active players who enjoy the game Unreal, who spend their time on Newbiesplayground-servers and to share their experience, knowledge, enthusiasm and RL-stories here on the DOG-forum! THANK YOU!

But those, who want to act up against this community and behave disrespectfully, will face exclusion!! NO TOLERANCE FOR INTOLERANCE!!

I set up a new „special rank“ on the forum: „Persona non grata“ – most of you may know what this designation means: „Unwanted Person“. Every user of this forum, who acts against the clan – and the case is not as severe as i would delete the account + posts immediately or on current cases, where i grant a last chance – will lose his/her current rank and will be „shifted“ to the rank „Persona non grata“. It also means, that this is the last chance to change the personal behavior. There are only 3 options how to lose the rank „Persona non grata“:

  • Apologize yourself for acting against the -(DOG)- clan and this community. Change your behavior and your rank will be changed to (FOD) again.
  • Notify me or post, that you request your account to be deleted. I will delete your account + all your posts asap.
  • Try to continue your actions against the clan and your account and posts will be deleted immediately. No further warning will follow!





WOOF!

EDIT 07/12/2018: ranks have been set back to FOD
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Re: Newbiesplayground – the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by Unreal » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:16 pm

Congratulations strategy-(DOG)- :) :flap:
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Re: Newbiesplayground – the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by Rubie » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:24 pm

Unreal wrote:
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Congratulations strategy-(DOG)- :) :flap:
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Re: Newbiesplayground – the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by strategy-(DOG)- » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:02 am

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Re: Newbiesplayground – the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by OrbitaL » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:44 pm

Wow! What a story! What I've been told ( and read on another forum) is a little different from what I read here, hmmm. I was shown missing parts of this forum. Drawn by curiosity I asked more and they told me many months in advance that the servers would move to europe and dang, it happend! How could they know? Are you sure some parts have not been made up? Do you mind if I ask around? I was also told that if I ask too many questions I get censored, actually that happens in here?
Off Topic:
Persecutory delusions are a set of delusional conditions in which the affected persons believe they are being persecuted. Specifically, they have been defined as containing two central elements
The individual thinks that harm is occurring, or is going to occur.
The individual thinks that the perceived persecutor has the intention to cause harm.
According to the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the most common form of delusions in paranoid schizophrenia, where the person believes "he or she is being tormented, followed, tricked, spied on, or ridiculed", or that their food is being poisoned. They are also often seen in schizoaffective disorder and, as recognized by DSM-IV-TR, constitute the cardinal feature of the persecutory subtype of delusional disorder, by far the most common. Delusions of persecution may also appear in manic and mixed episodes of bipolar disease, polysubstance abuse, and severe depressive episodes with psychotic features, particularly when associated with bipolar illness.

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Re: Newbiesplayground – the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by strategy-(DOG)- » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:04 pm

no problem! i don't know, what you read elsewhere, but related to newbiesplayground, you only can get verified information here.

as a matter of fact, back then when Sparky faced many problems (regarding stability, ftp-issues,...) with the game-hoster the servers were running on, i suggested to rent a dedicated server and do everything on our own. and i made clear that i would pay the server-costs, as i did it from that point, when Rubie stopped his donations to Sparky. Sparky's first question was, if i would rent a server in europe or if the server would be hosted in usa. i said i will get him a server near his location, which i did. the server always worked fine together with the administration software, while we used a windows os. at some point last year we had a severe headcrash on the system and it was not possible to restore the configuration unless starting from scratch. a clan-member suggested to switch to linux, as we did. unfortunately it turned out that the administration-software based on linux did not work flawlessly running the unreal-servers. there were many issues, that bugged me, but i kept it running, because the main-server "jackals coop" worked so far.
about two months ago, i had the chance to rent a more powerful server at way lower costs and i decided to use it as a testserver to figure out, if i could use a different linux-distribution and a different gamepanel-software. when i finished the configuration and saw, that all issues were solved, i decided to go on with test to see how the server would perform under full load. that was the point when i ran all services and servers on the european server and switched off the gameservers on the us-server. the european server performs far better - i kept it running for weeks. then i decided to move the server (means, i kept it as it was at that time).

not sure, what the "off topic" part is meant for....

and no, i never kicked anybody, who was just asking questions...
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Re: Newbiesplayground - the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by Leo(T.C.K.) » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:43 am

OrbitaL wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:44 pm
Wow! What a story! What I've been told ( and read on another forum) is a little different from what I read here, hmmm. I was shown missing parts of this forum. Drawn by curiosity I asked more and they told me many months in advance that the servers would move to europe and dang, it happend! How could they know? Are you sure some parts have not been made up? Do you mind if I ask around? I was also told that if I ask too many questions I get censored, actually that happens in here?
Off Topic:
Persecutory delusions are a set of delusional conditions in which the affected persons believe they are being persecuted. Specifically, they have been defined as containing two central elements
The individual thinks that harm is occurring, or is going to occur.
The individual thinks that the perceived persecutor has the intention to cause harm.
According to the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the most common form of delusions in paranoid schizophrenia, where the person believes "he or she is being tormented, followed, tricked, spied on, or ridiculed", or that their food is being poisoned. They are also often seen in schizoaffective disorder and, as recognized by DSM-IV-TR, constitute the cardinal feature of the persecutory subtype of delusional disorder, by far the most common. Delusions of persecution may also appear in manic and mixed episodes of bipolar disease, polysubstance abuse, and severe depressive episodes with psychotic features, particularly when associated with bipolar illness.
First, you're not a psychiatrist, like so many people you just quote something in order to shame someone.

I had this happen to me many times. Most of what you wrote doesn't even apply here.

You see, common sense. Unfortunately in the modern world, I have something against the way psychiatry works in general or works in most cases.

In the communist times people were often shoved away by being flagged by spurious made up things.

The practice has continued on, in a different less noticable form, into the today's world and the west's embrace of socialism.

I will be always opposed to it as I have been a victim of such "seclusions" from soeciety as well.

I am not saying that strategy's word is the word of god, he has his own beliefs, interpretations, etcetera.

But if you're a decent person, you will see where he's coming from and try to understand his decisions.

I perhaps don't have all the knowledge to judge everything on hand here, but I can confirm that one of the excluded members was a pain in the butt for me personally.

I do see it sad that the others are gone because I didn't see them nearly as harmful, but well...they did do their own bit in this and if the story is true, then BBG might have indeed started it all.

I do not wish to lay my judgement on them and it's not my place to do so, but I clearly see attempts of malicious actions and defamation.

I believe you're also going that direction so I advise you to try to stay out of it.

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Re: Newbiesplayground – the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by Kelly » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:15 am

I don't have a dog in this fight at all but can I get that rank too? "Persona non grata" is actually kinda cool if you think about it.

I get where you are coming from Strat but as an outsider with no issues with anyone here you might consider relaxing just a bit. Drama just creates problems for you, not to mention more work. There are very few active players any more and the ones still left have played every map in every configuration you can think of. I truly think 'rebellion' or 'mutiny' or whatever it was that was going on was just bored people making things interesting for themselves. I'm not condoning anything, don't get me wrong. I was one of the first to condemn the hijacking of the Newbie name for the pirate server. In a way though I get what was going on. There's an old saying "Idle hands do the devil's work" and I think that's all that was going on. I've seen it happen multiple times in different groups and I really don't think it's based in malice many of the times. It's just guys stirring up some entertainment for themselves.

At the end of the day everyone knows you own everything. There's no need to constantly restate it. Fealty to you isn't the issue I think. Instead giving people something interesting to do to amuse themselves is closer to what would fix this. Castigating and trying to publicly shame them only makes you look like a tyrant. Now I know you aren't, I like you personally, it's just that someone coming along could read you differently.

What was different in the pirate server versus yours? If the settings were vastly different then maybe you could do weekends with settings altered to let players do something different for a while? I don't know, I'm kinda spitballing but you get my point.

You're a good guy but I can also say that about Rubie and X. I've interacted with all you guys and never got the feeling I was around someone dangerous or antisocial. I'd help any of you guys and not feel at all concerned if you needed access to my server to fix something. This is all just a bunch of guys shitposting each other out of boredom. Call a truce, hug it out, and move on. There's no sense stretching out the pain. Everyone has made mistakes (have you seen mine? OMG you guys are saints compared to me...) so just let it go and move on. If you don't want them here then that's for sure your right but just ban the account and take the high ground. Naming and shaming is below you Strat.

Edit: Forgot to say "Hey Leo!" Hope you are well brother.

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Re: Newbiesplayground – the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by Rubie » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:05 am

when Rubie stopped his donations to Sparky.
I did stop taking the rent fees for my count when you did took over the command , and I did give you the total information about the paypal account included the money that was on that account!
So I've been honest like I always been and will stay , only you did not fit in my head for some reason and I did leave , like honest peoples do , and if ever there been disputes , there must have been a reason , you cannot always say its the others fault , like now you start again firing up everything , I have no idea why ?

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Re: Newbiesplayground – the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by strategy-(DOG)- » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:06 pm

Kelly wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:15 am
I don't have a dog in this fight at all but can I get that rank too? "Persona non grata" is actually kinda cool if you think about it.
well, i appreciate your contribution, kelly and i respect your view of things. i know that you are a giving as well as a forgiving person and i understand your conclusions very well. but maybe you would want to consider that your "big picture" of the situaton lacks of a very important ingredient: knowledge of all information required to get an objective view.

yes, you know what happened on OldUnreal forum and what can be read here in the "public" area of the dogforum. yet you know very little about personal messages, emails and discussions within the non-accessible parts of this forum if you are not a -(DOG)-, admin or council member nor about both sides of views, as you may have talked to the mentioned persons whereas at least you never talked about this stuff to me. there is so much more about this "case" to say.

yes, i agree with you - it is not a pleasure to post messages as the one i opened this thread with and yes, i dislike it as well, to repeat who i am and why i do what i do or have to do over and over again - but i have to do this, as some still don't understand. of course i could just follow your advice and keep things going. leave it as it is and enjoy other stuff in life.
but wait, that's what i did!? almost a year gone and hardly in contact with any of the "unwanted persons". do you really think that i am the one to cause drama? that i just woke up some day and felt the urge to kick someone just after so much time passed by although i always had the possibility to kick whoever i would want to? don't you think, there might be a reason, why i act as i act now? of course, you can't know, because you are not the recipient of messages being sent to me. the reason to start this "act of tyranny" as you may state was the continuation of disrespectful behavior, although i gave them a chance to apologize themselves. don't forget, it was not me who started the rebellion, i just reacted!

a few weeks ago, x21 messaged me on facebook - coming back to the topic, why i kicked him out of the clan. he wanted to explain me, that i am not the rightfully leader of the clan, no matter if Sparky himself said so.... well, ok, i ended the conversation pretty soon, as i considered it a waste of time. few days ago, BBG changed his signature on the forum, showing the same kind of disrespect and explaining me again i am not the "true" clanleader.... well, you may say that you could just ignore that. ok, fine with you, but that's not me. i want to have things set right and after all what happened, why should i grant them to continue with their disrespectful behavior? just remember, i gave them a chance to simply say sorry. but they thought they could just go on as they wanted to.

you know, there was a time, when i considered all three of them being friends! in my early days on newbiesplayground-servers, i spent a lot of time with rubie who showed me many maps on the server! i had a lot of fun with bbg on the kingofthehill server and many interesting discussions with x21. all of them contributed a lot to newbiesplayground, creating/fixing maps, supporting the technical aspects of the server and so on. i won't deny those facts and if it was about me, i would not have any problems with them at all and the status quo would be different from what it is - but as a matter of fact, they turned against me and acted against me! i have faced a lot of criticism that i would change newbiesplayground, the server-setups etc., that it was different from what they viewed newbies should be like. well, the difference is, that Sparky passed, which is a pain for all of us. nobody i know had the same passion for unreal, as he had. but - and yes, here i need to repeat myself again - the core of newbiesplayground, the gameservers, did not change at all! the servers' setups are still the same as when Sparky was running together with us through the maps. all i did was continually patching the latest 227j patch - as i am an enthusiastic supporter of OldUnreal - and adding new maps, if we have been offered some. i would have understood the criticism, if i had wiped unreal from the servers and therefor running minecraft or call of duty servers. i would have understood the criticism, if i had changed the server-rules or the content of newbies' website. still the same rules, still the same content - of course additions and new posts, but i did not create a website selling insurance policies. it is ok to dislike me, i really got no problem with that, but i don't see a point why the actual state of newbiesplayground is being criticised and always had been used as pretext to start a warfare?! the situation is as healthy as it was never before in history of the clan! Sparky always had to struggle to beg for donations and was in sorrow, if he could continue to run the servers if donations would cease. now the servers are being paid without any difficulty and i am not dependent from anybody. my position as clanleader is not the result of an election or that i would have filled out a letter of application. no, the last clanleader handed the function over to me and i might do the same one day too. so, questioning the clan-leadership would be about the same, if you start a new job at some company and start to question the ceo.

you can believe me, that i am the last person who wants to lead a war against anyone. all i do is defending the clan and myself because this is my responsibility - and i will do this seriously. if there wouldn't be any attacks from outside and inside, we could just enjoy ourselves on the servers and play. at least that'd be all i would like to do, as my spare time is very limited anyway.

and to show you, that i am not the petty guy you might want me to see, who atcs in rage on the slightest arising of disrespect, here are some additional facts you may not know to widen your image a bit:
i was the one - back then - who suggested to Sparky, that Rubie should be involved in the clan-leadership and that he could take over the responsibility for newbies' paypal account. he did the job and he did it correctly! but on the first riot shortly after Sparky's death, Rubie joined the renegades' side and headed against me. i excluded him from the clan. some time passed by and i offered Rubie to come back and regaining all his privilegies (although there were quite a lot members who felt that Rubie did not deserve it)! half a year or maybe a year later the next conflict started. Rubie tried to find followers to support his plans to overthrow me - again not successful in the implementation. from that time, Rubie went his own ways, yet we had some normal level of conversation imo. but one fact that made me consider Rubie being an inmate of the clan was way beyond "good taste": in his eagerness to form a clan - with whomever he might be able to acquire - he let TiagoPinto join his 2-players-clan!! yes, i am not kidding! Rubie united with the only person that terrorized the whole unreal-community and considering that TiagoPinto set the most severe action ever against OldSparky and the clan, when he wrote in an email that he'd "spit" on Sparky's grave!! all of us knew this, as i posted about it on the forum back then. so i blame Rubie to be a foe of the dog-clan, as he joined/formed a "clan" together with that portuguese psychopath (and the only person whose isp's ip-range is being blocked by me!). as history showed, next chance Rubie used to join a riot was last year, when he granted BBG to join his new community (the alliance with TiagoPinto did not last too long afaik).

coming to BBG - he was an honorable DOG and i always enjoyed playing with him especially kingofthehill. as well as BBG created many great maps - again, i don't deny that, i also shifted him to join the "DOGs council". but the problem started last year, when i had a discussion with Masterkent regarding the rules of the unreal-contest in 2017. the discussion was emotional and tough, but not in a disrecpectful way - as far as i viewed it. Masterkent had his views of how the event should be proceeded, and i had mine. BBG's opinion about it was that the "disrespectful" behavior of Masterkent would require some punishment (to withdraw his admin's rights) and BBG complained about the difficulty of last year's contest. you need to know that we played only stock maps, difficulty 3 and no mutators - so, of course it would require some strategy to master the event starting off with dispersion pistol only and without some practice, it was not an easy walkthrough, but hey, it should be a "contest" and we wanted players to take their chance and practice. well, i viewed BBG's results and it was pretty obvious that he just rushed through the maps, died as often as he could, just to have some "proof" that the contest would be too difficult and wanted me to change it and to punish Masterkent. to be honest, it was pretty embarrassing, that a so called experienced OldDog whined about some classic unreal maps and could not bear a simple discussion. i knew that BBG was in anger at that time, but i did not at all think about the next actions he set, as i described in my initial post.

x21 was very close to me too and was involved in various technical, supportive tasks regarding the dedicated server. i considered him that trustworthy, that i even granted him root-access to the dedicated server (for those who are not into the technical stuff, it means that he could control everything on newbiesplayground's dedicated server)! he did a good job and he never acted in a negative way when he was in charge of the adminship and part of the "development team". we had some arguments, when he wanted to support us with a custom written script that would enable the servers to restart automatically, in case those should hang/crash. he knew about the issues we had with the commercial administration-script (that worked on the previous windows-based os), but i told him not to spend his time on the script because i would not use it - right before he started his work on it! most likely he was angry about me due to that, as i did not use the script. i did not want to replace a commercial script i paid license fees for with a custom made script i had no idea about possible security leaks. well, as a matter of fact one day i found out, that x21 joined Rubie and BBG and you may guess that i could not tolerate an admin, having access to newbiesplayground's core and uniting with newbiesplayground's "foes". if he had come to me and asked me, if it was ok to give them a helping hand, we could have talked this out. but the decision to go for some "behind-my-back"-action was not the right way and i won't offer my enemies the chance to destroy everything OldSparky and many more have built up in years. of course there are backups of all servers, but to invest time to re-setup the whole dedicated server would have been a waste of time. and as said, this sneaky behind my back action did not establish trustworthiness.

i admire your kindness in letting everybody do anything on your server, but the big difference is that this is all your own decision and if you don't care about the state of your work, it is fine with you as well. but i have the responsibility over Sparky's legacy and i keep a good eye on it. Sparky did not want his files being spread around, so why should i disregard his wishes now?

i know, the story got way too long again and there might be a lot of repeated and known information, but i just wanted to make clear that it is important to me, that facts are being displayed correctly.
just recent happenings - in the background again - made me re-activate the case, that could have been resolved quite easily. i would have accepted an apology, if meant sincerely - but my opponents still think they are rightfully attacking the clan and my leadership.
i always gave a second chance and i stretched out my hands. but acting against me, is never a good choice, as i don't do this just for fun!

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Re: Newbiesplayground – the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by strategy-(DOG)- » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:10 pm

Rubie wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:05 am
when Rubie stopped his donations to Sparky.
I did stop taking the rent fees for my count when you did took over the command , and I did give you the total information about the paypal account included the money that was on that account!
So I've been honest like I always been and will stay , only you did not fit in my head for some reason and I did leave , like honest peoples do , and if ever there been disputes , there must have been a reason , you cannot always say its the others fault , like now you start again firing up everything , I have no idea why ?

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yes, i can confirm that you cared for newbies paypal account correctly! no accusations that you would have misappropriated anything from newbies donations!

well, i think i explained clearly why i took up the case again - provoking me, always causes a reaction...

and btw - here you got the chance to explain, why "i did not fit in your head". Sparky lived about 1 year, after he made me clanleader. and NOBODY stood up and said, that he/she'd would not want that!! ....that's rather interesting, isn't it?
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Re: Newbiesplayground – the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by strategy-(DOG)- » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:41 pm

i would have wanted to reply to a post that had been posted by x21, but in the meantime he deleted it himself. yet he called me a "liar", so i will react:

basically i have been called a liar because i named all three, BBG, Rubie and x21 being responsible for the ut99-servers naming "Newbiesplayground" and that x21 would have been against it, when he found out.
ok, here's my apology if you did not support this act, x21, but you did never mention that you too viewed this as wrong acting and as you might know, i never attended your "clan-meetings".

but as a matter of fact you can't deny your involvement in the so called {XBR}-clan? first i thought this would stand for "X21, BBG, Rubie", but yes, "Xtreem Brain Resistance" makes more sense...
and running one of your coop's servers using the admin's email-address "x21@rubiesunreal.com" seems close enough too as well as being 1 of 4 forum-members of your clan.
well, everything i could see was a very close relation to the "clan" that tried to fight me and the -(DOG)- clan rather than your consternation about them using a well known name within the unreal-community.

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Re: Newbiesplayground - the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by Leo(T.C.K.) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:02 pm

Hi Kelly.

I want to add another "two cents" into this. I find strategy to be one of the most honest and down to earth people I've ever met on Unreal.

I cannot say the same unfortunately about Rubie. He did act outright psychotic at times.

Yet it's him who keeps shouting about honesty. Again, I see that they are trying to shame people, not strategy.

And I do know where you're coming from, you're always the guy who lets anyone "play with their toys", unfortunately sometimes such things lead to destruction, because normal players usually aren't well aware of the dangers they might cause when having admin access or whatever or play with all kind of events and triggers, potentially breaking the maps.

But, that's your own world and your own piece of the world that doesn't affect the big picture.

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Re: Newbiesplayground - the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by strategy-(DOG)- » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:11 pm

Leo(T.C.K.) wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:02 pm
I find strategy to be one of the most honest and down to earth people I've ever met on Unreal.
thank you very much! i didn't expect this backup - very much appreciated! :)
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Re: Newbiesplayground - the -(DOG)- clan in 2018

Post by Leo(T.C.K.) » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:22 pm

No need to thank me. I know how unthankful some of the community behavior must feel like, from experience.

I always try to back someone up who I feel is not being presented correctly by groups of people surrounding him.

And I know how difficult it can be in these times.

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